Charlie Puth

But...

I always wanted to be responsible for making the songs that people would move to.

And I wanted to learn how Lil Jon made his kicks so punchy and how Dr. Dre on Bitch Please would make the snare so on an Eminem record.

I wanted to learn...

how to do it and it just took like 10 years to just by listening and listening and trying to figure it out until 23 is that what you mean like 13 to 23 is that when see you again came yeah that's when see you again that's crazy yeah so 10 years of writing songs until see you again and then see you again came out and then my inadvertent artist career just started happening

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, and for myself too.

There are a couple of like, you know, self-made EPs that I made in college.

Yeah, that's by design.

There are some good songs, some...

elements of, you know, the start of what would be my songwriting mark, but I was still just like figuring it out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, uploading everything to like band camp and tune core and sound click.

And I don't even go into hilly dilly.com, which doesn't even exist anymore, but it was an excellent, excellent blog for, um, budding music that wasn't on iTunes yet.

I ended up on that, uh, that site a couple of times during college.

The, uh,

Oh, what was it called?

Hype Machine.

I ended up on the Hype Machine.