Christian Rudder

You have TikTok and like social media is as strong as ever.

You have TikTok and like social media is as strong as ever.

Yeah, they just change where they're going. But here people are, when they change what they're doing, they're just like, I'm out. I give up. Yeah, or whatever. I'm just going to meet people at work or like in real life, which is, you know, or through TikTok.

Yeah, they just change where they're going. But here people are, when they change what they're doing, they're just like, I'm out. I give up. Yeah, or whatever. I'm just going to meet people at work or like in real life, which is, you know, or through TikTok.

Right.

Right.

Or how they want to think that they think. Exactly.

Or how they want to think that they think. Exactly.

Yeah. And that's very nice to hear because, you know, like publishing that stuff, it feels dicey to be talking about race in a public way. A white dude. It's not like I have any firsthand experience of any of this stuff. And we just decided to put it out there in the world. And we did get feedback from people that were like very grateful that we were just helping maybe put an...

Yeah. And that's very nice to hear because, you know, like publishing that stuff, it feels dicey to be talking about race in a public way. A white dude. It's not like I have any firsthand experience of any of this stuff. And we just decided to put it out there in the world. And we did get feedback from people that were like very grateful that we were just helping maybe put an...

Not a name, but maybe a number to their experience of like, you know, am I... Whatever, my friends are having a different kind of experience than I am on your app. And this helps me understand why. Because it's nothing with me.

Not a name, but maybe a number to their experience of like, you know, am I... Whatever, my friends are having a different kind of experience than I am on your app. And this helps me understand why. Because it's nothing with me.

It's like this... It's the people who come to the app that bring all of their prejudices or just like this kind of sociological baking that goes on for your entire life about what's attractive and what you should want. And... Yeah, those were my favorite things to work on, for sure. Like looking at how different racial groups message each other, how they rate each other.

It's like this... It's the people who come to the app that bring all of their prejudices or just like this kind of sociological baking that goes on for your entire life about what's attractive and what you should want. And... Yeah, those were my favorite things to work on, for sure. Like looking at how different racial groups message each other, how they rate each other.

So like swipe left, swipe right. What's interesting is it's like that phenomenon, for example, of... black women getting fewer messages than, say, Asian or white women. It's much less a thing outside the United States when you look at the data from other places like the UK.

So like swipe left, swipe right. What's interesting is it's like that phenomenon, for example, of... black women getting fewer messages than, say, Asian or white women. It's much less a thing outside the United States when you look at the data from other places like the UK.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

And just for your readers' context, or listeners' context, I think it's probably like... 50%, I think, or 60% in the US, the ratio would be of like contacts, I'd say, from black women to white women.

And just for your readers' context, or listeners' context, I think it's probably like... 50%, I think, or 60% in the US, the ratio would be of like contacts, I'd say, from black women to white women.