Chuck Todd

I'll put that in the it's it's somewhere in the middle.

Where do you let me know as a military veteran, where do you put that?

Where do you put National Guard service?

And it's different today, right?

If you were in the National Guard in the 21st century, you may have been sent overseas.

I think what's important- Or the National Guard in the 60s or 70s, you weren't, right?

And to me, doing National Guard, yeah.

All right, good for you.

And there's plenty of folks like that.

That's where why you and I are so in line on this.

I think that I certainly view it this way for when we're trying to repair something that's broken in the moment.

Right.

And right now, our politics is broken and our.

a military veteran might be the best way to go.

And frankly, it's not lost on me.

And I think I said this to you before, that for me, there are two presidents that stand out as being the closest we've ever had to actually having independence as presidents, people that truly did put country over party.

One was our first one.

And he's got plenty of receipts to prove that one.

And the other is Eisenhower.

And I don't really think there's anybody else that comes close.