Claudia Oshry

kind of not like dark, but like definitely challenging childhood and more so than the average.

And like, here's Ben, who's just like so normal.

His parents are still married.

Okay.

Like it's insane.

The two could not have had genuinely, even though they're both like chubby Jews from New York, they could not have had more different upbringings.

And so, yeah, the hardest thing in Ben's childhood was the Knicks.

That they kept losing.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's giving.

I have not been eating more crackers, but I'm 100% open to the idea of it.

Let's talk about crackers in terms of brands.

Like obviously a Ritz cracker is supreme.

It is good, but it's very rich.

I agree.

And it's really not one you can just grab a cracker and be stabilized.

It's like a whole journey because you have to have a sleeve.

Yeah, it's like taking a Zofran actually, a premium saltine.

But you know what I'm really into that I don't see getting enough love?

I do know they're really popular and like people always buy them for their charcuterie boards, but I don't see them getting enough like social media hype and like in the culture as a club cracker.