Claudia Oshry

Because it's freestanding.

It's moving gray oven.

I know it sounds like a lot of fun, like slabs and faucets and mood boards and things, but I've been along for the journey on your design process, and I just want to say, I think remodeling and just designing homes, first of all, I don't have a knack for it, so...

that's I'm already off to a bad start it is genuinely one of the most unfun unpleasant things to do and I feel like when the time comes that like I do like settle down buy a house wherever that is like I'm gonna need one of those like when Shannon's like a builder grade home where like I just literally want to come in with my toothbrush and a pair of underwear yeah yeah but even builder grade like then you do have to like design it they don't buy furniture and do molding and all that

somebody needs to like start a firm like a design architecture firm where it's called like toothbrush the toothbrush firm and all you need to do is bring your toothbrush like why can't i buy a house and like all the furniture's there already you know well sometimes you can especially if it's like stage with furniture no i'm sorry i don't want somebody's old i'm not buying a furnished smelly old couch no but if it's stage like the stagers you can wind up buying it and it's always like really nice everyone just uses like restoration hardware which is like super pargy

Everyone uses restoration hardware.

I don't know that to be true.

Actually, when I was like spending my sabbatical in Florida over the last couple of months, Ben and I were looking at some places there.

And every time I went in, I'm like, oh, is this your furniture?

I'm like, is this your furniture?

And they're like, no, it's staged.

And I was like, can you?

Like, I felt so lowbrow, but I'm like, can you buy the staged furniture?

They were like-

I guess.

I just am so uninterested.

And I feel like that's why I'll never truly be saddled because in order to like have a home, you have to put in the work.

Like you have to go find the house.

A lot of them, most of them, especially if you're a cardboard Koji, like need work if you want to get a good deal.

Yeah.