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Clem Delangue

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
94 total appearances

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The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

You've probably heard of DeepSeq, of Quen, of Kimi.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

There are a bunch of companies and organizations in China contributing massively to the field of open source.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

Well, I was asked if we were in an AI bubble, and I said we're probably not in an AI as a general field bubble, but I feel like if there's one specific domain of AI where there's

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

so much investment that there's maybe a risk of over-investing.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

It's large language models distributed behind APIs, right?

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

Like you see the building of crazy data centers for it.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

And obviously you see a lot of revenue growth, but with kind of like uncertain margins and certain kind of like long-term sustainability and mode for it.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

So if there is a bubble, it's probably an LLM, but we'll see what happens in the next few months.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

So the interesting thing is that we've had these conversations and this kind of like talking point for a while in AI when we were earlier taking face, I think six, seven years ago.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

At the time it was GPT-2 and there was already like a lot of people saying that it was too dangerous to release in open source at the time, right?

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

It was six, seven years ago when basically it was nothing more than just an auto-complete.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

I think we've seen progressively that these were quite overblown.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

And I think they're also overblown today, right?

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

And the whole point is that, you know, Mitos, I think when it was announced, was it like three weeks ago, a month ago?

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

it was crazy dangerous and now it's starting to be deployed kind of like everywhere, right?

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

I think they just gave access to the first international organization in South Korea, I think yesterday or something like that.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

And probably in a few weeks or in a few months, everyone is going to be using Mitos and not kind of like destroy the world as a result.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

So I think with the current models, it's safe to release behind APIs.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

It's safe to release in open source.

The a16z Show
Hugging Face's Clem Delangue on Open Source AI and the LLM Bubble | MTS Live

And it's actually the safest way because it gives everyone the capabilities to not only