Clem Delangue

you know, build the systems, but also build the protection systems, right?

So if we talk, for example, for cybersecurity, the biggest risk is that a few players have capabilities that other people don't have, right?

And so the attackers could have capabilities that the defenders don't have.

Whereas kind of like if you make it more open,

actually it's usually easier for the defenders to react and kind of like make the whole system safer.

So that's kind of like what we see with each releases where there are always kind of like overgrown concerns before and then progressively just we all adapt and the benefits kind of like outweighs the risks.

It's kind of like the story of technology, you know, like, I mean, the idea of like restricting a technology like AI based on risks is just like, for example, you would say, okay, some people can punch other people.

So let's tie down everybody's hands.

Because it's too dangerous.

Some people can punch.

But in reality, you don't want to do that because your hands are so useful.

They're creating so many good things in the world.

You need your hands.

The way you want to control it is untie everyone, give the freedom to everyone, and then regulate or fight the bad actors.

So, for example, if hacking creates cybersecurity risks,

I mean, it's illegal, right?

You have to make it illegal.

You have to fight it, but not by preventing everyone from getting these capabilities.

Because otherwise you slow down progress, you create massive gaps in terms of controls, in terms of capabilities, and you create actually additional risks.

Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see conversations about open source AI.