Clementine Breen

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She also asserted that that was basically the only treatment available.
My parents were very reluctant originally, and they were constantly like, I don't believe this. You have never expressed this before. And Olson would have conversations with me or conversations with them where I wasn't there or conversations with me separately. And then she'd talk to my parents.
I don't know exactly what was said, but I know it was just asserting the same rhetoric that I was at very high risk for suicide, that my depression was going to get worse if they didn't act on this now. And it was also... There was a lot of social pressure put on me because Olson kept bringing up keeping up with male peers and keeping up with people in my class. Time is of the essence.
Right, as if there was some need to act as quick as possible.
That was something that was probably expressed to my parents every time my parents spoke to her.
Yeah. I mean, we didn't really fight too much. It was just they were very distressed about it. And they didn't. They didn't want to agree, but they also felt kind of backed into a corner and they sort of felt a bit... The purpose of that threat is to back them into a corner.
She's sort of just reaffirming all my beliefs. And every problem I had was attributed to the fact that I was somehow inherently born in the wrong body and that I was intrinsically male and I should have been born in a different body. And that's why I feel so anxious. And that's why I hate school. And that's why I can't focus. And all my problems were attributed to my gender dysphoria. Yeah. Yeah.
Right. In my mind, I'm thinking, oh, great, this is treatable. I found the problem. I found what's wrong with me.
I don't think I actually doubted much. I mean, I, in my mind, truly believed that this might be the answer. Hoped or believed? I think I hoped, and I was waiting to see if it would resolve, and it didn't eventually. But I was also kind of naively trusting them and assuming that this was right, especially because people around me... Yeah, it's hard to tell how much of that's naive.
I knew that it had happened, and I was very aware of what happened, but I didn't think it was also something that needed to be addressed until probably around 16. And you said you figured that out because these other things didn't work? Because I was still, I had gone through the surgery. I had been on testosterone. I was fitting in much better as a teenage boy than I had been as a teenage girl.
And everything was worse. I was so much worse off and I was so much more suicidal.
I didn't. I think I sort of just knew once I was looking at my life and looking at the way that I was acting and I couldn't function properly, to put it bluntly, I figured there was something still going on that I hadn't heard.
The puberty blockers made me kind of lightheaded all the time. So it also sort of put a little more pressure on me to start testosterone because I was sort of feeling the effects of having no estrogen or testosterone in my system. And I was getting hot flashes and just feeling kind of lightheaded. But otherwise, it just stopped any breast development, which was causing me...
distress at the time, but it also sort of deformed the breast development that I did have. So in a way, it sort of relieved my discomfort with my breast, but it also made it a lot worse because then the tissue was somewhat deformed.
I think it was around when I started testosterone and I started noticing my voice dropping and noticing that people were starting to just respect me a little bit more now that I looked more physiologically male. Once that happened and I was sort of fitting in socially as male, but then I was looking at my body and just seeing the disconnect.
And then because of the puberty blockers, the deformities of my breast tissue was causing me so much discomfort. So it was really that sort of immediately after I started testosterone at 13. So you're trapped between fish and fowl at that point.
Well, the two people who wrote my referral letters were Olson and Landon. So I hardly had any extra psychological evaluation because they just... wrote the letters because they'd already been seeing me and they didn't really ask me much additional questions. And then when I went in for surgery, I had already had everything scheduled. I was already cleared for surgery.
So I traveled to San Francisco just because it was recommendation of Olson, the specific doctor. And by the time I was there.
Because he doesn't have age limits or BMI requirements. No age limits.
Yes.
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