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Coco Kahn

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Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

Of course, these institutions are deeply, deeply problematic, but do we want to do away with them entirely, i.e. they don't exist, we don't have anything like that, or do we want to improve them so that they are more fair? That point about naivety, I feel that as well.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

I was thinking about Donald Trump, as I do every minute of the day, but I was thinking about how he's so naked in his ambition and the way that he speaks, and he kind of reveals the problems with the machine, right? Yeah. Actually, all along, it's just been about money and power and who has the biggest guns. All along, it's been might is right, investors interested, all along.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

I was thinking about Donald Trump, as I do every minute of the day, but I was thinking about how he's so naked in his ambition and the way that he speaks, and he kind of reveals the problems with the machine, right? Yeah. Actually, all along, it's just been about money and power and who has the biggest guns. All along, it's been might is right, investors interested, all along.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

But this time, he's not keeping it quiet. He's proud of it and he's showing it. And there's something about this as well in this situation where I just was thinking to myself, well, I suppose if it has felt like in a way that we're all in this... through the looking glass when we talk about Gaza and that Israel's response has been, I don't know, proportional or something ludicrous like that.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

But this time, he's not keeping it quiet. He's proud of it and he's showing it. And there's something about this as well in this situation where I just was thinking to myself, well, I suppose if it has felt like in a way that we're all in this... through the looking glass when we talk about Gaza and that Israel's response has been, I don't know, proportional or something ludicrous like that.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

People are still saying this thing. And if you follow that to the nth degree, if you take that logic where we're just going to completely forget all of the history, all of the occupation, we're just going to only think about the last however months long it's been. Well, obviously, this is going to be the logical conclusion, isn't it?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

People are still saying this thing. And if you follow that to the nth degree, if you take that logic where we're just going to completely forget all of the history, all of the occupation, we're just going to only think about the last however months long it's been. Well, obviously, this is going to be the logical conclusion, isn't it?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

This is the logical conclusion of like dehumanising Palestinians, them not having a voice, of the only thing that matters is Israeli security and about ultimately securing a kind of Western presence in the Middle East.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

This is the logical conclusion of like dehumanising Palestinians, them not having a voice, of the only thing that matters is Israeli security and about ultimately securing a kind of Western presence in the Middle East.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

Yeah, even just listening to Trump earlier then when he talked about, like, we will own it. So I'm like, OK, so we're going to go from an Israeli occupation to an American occupation? Like, he went from crony capitalist to crony imperialist in, what, two weeks? Something like that? I'm still processing it and I still feel... like angry and shocked and confused.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

Yeah, even just listening to Trump earlier then when he talked about, like, we will own it. So I'm like, OK, so we're going to go from an Israeli occupation to an American occupation? Like, he went from crony capitalist to crony imperialist in, what, two weeks? Something like that? I'm still processing it and I still feel... like angry and shocked and confused.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

And there's a part of me, a negative part of me that's like, well, what did you expect, Coco? What did you expect was going to happen? Did you really think that this relationship between Trump and Netanyahu, which has been signposted for a long time, was going to come out?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

And there's a part of me, a negative part of me that's like, well, what did you expect, Coco? What did you expect was going to happen? Did you really think that this relationship between Trump and Netanyahu, which has been signposted for a long time, was going to come out?

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

You know that phrase, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. I mean, these people have been showing us who they are for such a long time. And there's a part of me that thinks, well, what did you think was going to happen? Like really, Coco, what did you think when they announced the ceasefire deal? And even the fact that like, you know, the UN... Aid agency weren't allowed in there.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

You know that phrase, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. I mean, these people have been showing us who they are for such a long time. And there's a part of me that thinks, well, what did you think was going to happen? Like really, Coco, what did you think when they announced the ceasefire deal? And even the fact that like, you know, the UN... Aid agency weren't allowed in there.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

In a way, there's part of me that thinks, well, this was inevitable. This was going to happen. I hope for God's sake that the governments around the world have had this conversation about when this happens and have a plan. You know what I mean? It's a horrible, horrible day. Yeah.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

In a way, there's part of me that thinks, well, this was inevitable. This was going to happen. I hope for God's sake that the governments around the world have had this conversation about when this happens and have a plan. You know what I mean? It's a horrible, horrible day. Yeah.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

Like the Gaza situation, this is definitely a sign of things to come in terms of US foreign policy. Trump will probably keep throwing his toys out of the pram and world leaders will at least partly acquiesce.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

Like the Gaza situation, this is definitely a sign of things to come in terms of US foreign policy. Trump will probably keep throwing his toys out of the pram and world leaders will at least partly acquiesce.

Pod Save the UK
Trump’s Gaza madness ft Lewis Goodall

Listen to the latest episode now on the Pod Save America feed or watch on YouTube. But back on our home turf, we have some news that will give us a little bit of hope in this. It's been hard to find reasons to be hopeful recently. But we have a victory for the climate.