Trump 2.0: Fear and Loathing in DC
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Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Coco Khan.
And I'm Nish Kumar. And Trump is back in the White House and the next four years are going to be a nightmare.
Oh my God. Did you watch the inauguration?
Yes, I did. But I don't know why I did. What possible benefit could that have had?
It was... I'm going to use the word nightmarish, and I mean that genuinely, literally. As someone who's a vivid dreamer myself, it felt like figures from my subconscious coming back. You had all the thin-skinned bully boys who are now the most powerful men in the world. The Hamburglar was there, Melania Trump. You have to have these strange cartoon characters from your past.
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Too early in the show for nipples. It's too early in the show for nipple chat. But anyway, to find out what it all means, we'll be joined by Pod Save America's Jon Favreau.
And later, we'll be speaking to Green Party leader Carla Denya about what the new Trump presidency might mean for the climate emergency.
We will be strong and we will win like never before. We will not be conquered. We will not be intimidated. We will not be broken, and we will not fail. From this day on, the United States of America will be a free, sovereign, and independent nation. We will stand bravely. We will live proudly. We will dream boldly. And nothing will stand in our way because we are Americans. The future is ours, and our golden age has just begun. Thank you. God bless America. Thank you all. Thank you.
Well, look, the next four years are going to clearly be one hell of a ride. So joining us now to find out what's in store for America, the UK, and indeed the rest of the world, is Jon Favreau, host of Pod Save America and Offline. And I guess my boss. It's never really been fully made clear to me.
I guess one of my bosses. Management is not my strong suit. One of the three wise men that governs my destiny. Yes, definitely three men.
Yeah.
Look, I will say things are happening fast here. We've already got a bunch of people convicted of assaulting cops. They're out of jail now. People who are conspiring to try to overthrow the government, they're out of jail now. So Trump's got his – all of his favorite people. If you commit violence, but you do it in Trump's name, you're okay. That's the message that he started off sending to everyone. There's a bunch of other executive orders he's been signing this first week. Some are for show, some don't matter much, some do matter much. So I think everyone's trying to hear, everyone's trying to work through What what's going to have the biggest impact? I think the immigration actions that he's taking are all, you know, the presidents here always have wide latitude to direct immigration policy. So I think he's sending troops to the southern border. I just saw that he canceled all the refugees who are on their way here to be resettled. from Afghanistan, from other countries, just canceled all those.
They're trying to end birthright citizenship here. But there's already lawsuits there. I don't know if the courts will uphold that.
That's a constitutional right. The president doesn't have the power to overturn that, right?
No, I don't think that will go very far. But it does. It speaks to what their agenda is, which is to, you know, they want to decide who's a real American. who gets to benefit from living in America. And for them, it's people who agree with them and people who don't oppose them.
And also presumably people willing to invest in their cryptocurrency. Because I think just in terms of from a British perspective, obviously, our media is sort of drowning in a deluge of executive orders. And there are elements in there that have very specific concerns for the day-to-day lives of British people, particularly, obviously, pulling out the Paris Climate Agreement. I want to go back to that. But I do think a story that has slightly passed us by is this sort of inauguration grift that he's gone into. Do I have this right? He's launched Trump and Melania meme coins, which by some estimates have made the president more money in 24 hours than the entirety of the rest of his career.
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