Corey DeAngelis
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first heard Mar 2025
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Yeah, when people would, like, I didn't have, like, a data point to point to, and I had the sense. When was this? When did you figure this out? This survey was January of this year. This just happened.
So you didn't realize how widespread it was until that survey. You know, because I'd get asked this all the time, like, Corey, is it really a big problem? And I'd say, well, we're hearing about it all the time. If it's a big problem for this parent, then this is a big enough deal for us to change something, right?
If that parent is unhappy, they should have a choice to go somewhere else, even if it's only 1% of the time. Well, now we know it's not just 1% of the time. It's all the time. It's everywhere.
So you're less likely to tolerate others' beliefs and think of them as a person? No, I don't think it's tolerance.
No, I don't think it's that.
Yeah, because you can't explain, well, maybe they have good motivations behind what they're thinking because they can't come up with those alternative theories.
So I wonder if why there's selection into the education academia based on these predictors. Is it because... going into the school system is seen as an easier job with pretty good benefits, and so... Well, that's a good question.
Not barrier to entry. Right.
I mean, these are all things. I had also seen a study that selection into education degrees was associated with risk aversion, too.
So if you know you have a union protecting you, you have job security, even if it's not the highest pay, you're going to have a pension when you retire, you can't get fired if you do a bad job, you're not going to get paid any less if you're not doing as well as the person across the hallway. Right.
You need... No merit pay. So the best teachers leave. The best teachers say, to heck with this. This person across the hall is showing videos all day, and they're getting paid the same, or more than me, just because they've been around the system longer. They reward years of service, not much. I mean... I mentioned earlier that spending has gone up by 164% in real terms since 1970.
Teacher salaries on average have actually only increased by about 3% in real terms. Right, so where's the bulk of the money going? So I think it's also going to pensions and other benefits too, but it's going towards administrative growth. Yeah, yeah. So the same thing that happened at the universities fundamentally. Same in healthcare. Yeah.
Since 2000, we have data on this in the U.S., and we've seen that enrollment for students has increased in this public school system by about 5% since 2000. The number of teachers in the system has increased about twice that rate, by about 10%. Yeah. Administrators have increased by about 95%. Yeah, right.
Yeah. Yeah, it's become a jobs program for administrators.
administrative bureaucracies that have an unlimited source of funding so they're just going to continue to grow it i don't know what it is five to seven percent a year or something like that and there's actually been four studies on this not a lot but it's what we have it's a really niche area of research that the more private and charter school competition in the area all else equal after they control for all the usual demographic characteristics
the public school teacher salaries slightly go up. And now a lot of people say, oh, that's counterintuitive because it's stealing money from the public schools, they say, which the money doesn't belong to the schools, it's for the kids. But all that aside,
because there's also competition, they start to allocate those additional dollars instead of towards administrators, they start to allocate them towards the classroom, towards the teachers, so the teachers who remain actually end up better off. Is that to stop the teachers moving into the private realm?
Stop them from going to the private sector, stop the kids from going to the private sector, because now there's a monopsony situation and a monopoly situation. Monopsy is a monopoly in the labor market. With the government school system, you want to be a teacher, you basically got to take what they give you.
But now if you have more competition in the labor market too, competing for your excellence, if you're doing a good job, then the public schools have to say, you know what, we got to treat the teachers better too. Some teachers are underpaid, some teachers are overpaid. Depends on, you know, we try to treat everything as one size fits all in our current system.
But that's an interesting finding that actually benefits teachers. But also we found in places like Florida, there is a control group of, you mentioned earlier about how do we compare systems. In Florida, there's 11 academic studies on this topic. 10 of them find positive effects of competition on the outcomes in the public schools. It's been a rising tide that lifts all boats.
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