Corey DeAngelis
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And just over time, you can see it work out in Florida too. So a couple of decades ago, they were at the bottom of the pack on what we call the nation's report card, the math and reading scores. Now, US News and World Report has ranked Florida number one on education. They're at the top of the rankings for the nation's report card. And it's not because they pump more money into the system.
They spend 27% less than the national average in Florida, but they have school choice for everybody. Same here in Arizona. They have school choice for everybody. If you like your public school, you can keep your public school for real this time, unlike with your doctor. Thanks, Obama, for lying about that. But the public schools in this case actually do get better in response to competition.
And we have studies all across the nation.
I also did one more study on this issue, and I haven't brought it up in a long time because I've done like 40 peer-reviewed articles on school choice, which is really tough in the academia for education. The peers are your enemies, not your peers. Yeah, that's for sure. I'm amazed you managed that. So I mentioned that first study I did about school choice reducing crime later on in life.
It was a very good study, the first of its kind. Long-term data, student-level data, very rigorous study. One of the reviewers in one of the first places we sent it was a journal called Urban Education. One of the reviewers said, you know, we like the methods and we buy that it's a causal relationship, but they said, you called the students urban students. You can't say that.
They are students in urban areas. So it was like a politically correct thing. And I looked at their about the journal. The only reason we said that was because they said urban students in their own about the journal, total hypocrites on the issue. Why were they allowed to say it? But I wasn't allowed to say it, but they went further than that. They also said that
we have to reject this because you didn't talk about how the results relate to whiteness, structural oppression, and power. I mean, it's just so ridiculous. But the study I wanted to bring up about competition was actually in my home state of Texas. I did a survey experiment with my co-authors. So I randomly assigned different surveys to public school leaders in Texas. And one of the
The treatment group had a randomized note that said on one of the questions, you're going to have a new charter school that's expected to open nearby. And I was asking them where they were going to put their money next year, like where were they going to allocate resources?
And the treatment of having a charter school competing with you had the effect of reducing administrative allocations and having more of that money going to the classroom. Okay. Any idea why? Well, because they know that they might have to think about where they're going to spend money if they have a competitor, because if they waste the money, families are going to go there.
That's what they tell you publicly, but privately they know that's all BS, which is what that study, because they didn't know what the study was doing. They just thought, I'm answering a simple survey question. And they didn't know whether they were the treatment group or not.
Yeah, peer-reviewed. Yeah, well, over what period of time? Other ones that weren't peer-reviewed, but I almost think peer-review is a negative indicator at this point because of the peers that are looking at your study.
2016, I want to say, was my first. So what is this, nine or so years? So you've published four or five studies a year. Yeah, and a lot of them were at the very beginning when I was in grad school because I thought that that mattered for getting an academic job. I thought it mattered. It did matter.
And I wasn't very serious on the job market, but I applied to like three schools, and most people will apply to like 100 if you're serious. But I knew I was probably going to go into a think tank where I'd be rewarded for my ideas as opposed to being punished with all the leftists. You mean when you were on the job market?
When I was on the job market, my first think tank was called the Cato Institute. It's a libertarian think tank. And I moved to D.C. while I was finishing my Ph.D. like two and a half years into the program. I ended up finishing it. And I've slowed down publications since then. But, you know, some of these lefty departments didn't even give me a call.
But I had like nearly a dozen peer-reviewed publications a few years into my Ph.D. program. How do you do that?
And some of the far lefty departments wouldn't even call me because they select based on ideology. They don't select based on productivity or intelligence or anything like that. But peer review articles are not the same thing as intelligence. I'll say that. Yeah. I found out really quickly that, and I'm glad I had a fork in the road. I did have an offer from one academic institution.
It was Kennesaw State University in Georgia. And I think they had like a free market center there. So they were friendly.
I also didn't do it seriously. Like three, you know, applying to three schools just to put my feet in the water to see what would happen is not the same thing as what most people do with, you know, they're applying to 100 different schools. True, true.
And so, you know— Okay, so you didn't have a full test of whether— Yeah, so it might have not—it might have been—I might have gotten more of a fair shake if I actually did a real— Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, fair enough.
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