Corey DeAngelis
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So this one hit the national bestseller list, USA Today. The New York Times didn't put me on their list for some reason. But Trump endorsed the book. Vivek Ramaswamy, Pete Hegseth, Ted Cruz, my senator from Texas, he actually says on the back, you can ruin Randy Weingarten's day by reading this book. So there's that. But I also went to government schools all through K through 12.
So I don't know how I did any of this. You can just check out my handwriting in the beginning. It's very horrible. I blame it on my government school education. It's to you, Jordan. I'm going to give it to you right after the recording. But I think the way that I really started to change the narrative when it came to school choice was talking about it differently.
These days, we can just say school choice, and you and I know what we're talking about. But when I first entered the think tank world, I made a deliberate shift to talk about funding students, not systems. Oh, is that your phrase? That's my phrase I came up with. It's good to have a phrase.
It puts the other side on defense because now if you want to argue with me, you have to say why we should fund the system and not the student. So it changes the burden of proof to be on them, whereas the school choice supporters for a long time have been trying to explain ourselves as to why families should have a choice as opposed to the other side.
Funding students, not systems. So it's more transparent. People know, like, this is the concept of the money following the child.
Yep. And the other thing that is very useful in how I changed talking about this was that it really pointed out the hypocrisy of a lot of the Democrats, not just because they send their own kids to private school, but also because Democrats and other people who are supported by the teachers union, some of the rhinos, will support programs where the money follows the individual. Think about it.
When we have grocery stores, which I mentioned earlier, we have food stamps everywhere. We don't say the food stamps must be spent at a signed Walmart.
And so we also do this with higher ed. It's not just that we do this with other industries. We do this with education too, higher ed. We have Pell Grants in the U.S. We have... The GI Bill, these are taxpayer dollars that can be used at private universities if you want, and it follows the decision of the student.
Yeah, because the status quo would always say we need public money for public schools. And my quick response was, well, you support public taxpayer dollars for private everything else when it comes to higher ed. You support Pell Grants that go to private religious schools. You support vouchers when it comes to hospitals. We have Medicaid vouchers.
You can take that to a religiously affiliated hospital if you want. We do this with pre-K. We have the Head Start programs. All the Democrats support it. It's a pre-K program where the money follows your decision to a private provider of pre-K, even a religious one. Has that helped Head Start? Do you know? Has it improved its quality? Head Start evaluations are horrible.
They find that it spends a lot of money, and they don't improve outcomes. Most of the results are null results.
I don't think that was the RCT, though. I think that was more of like a regression with controls. Could be.
And the latest pre-K evaluation statewide was in Tennessee. Yeah, when was that? That was a few years ago. They followed them through sixth grade. Oh, yeah. And it was a randomized control trial. They found that those who won the lottery were worse off academically and behaviorally by the end of sixth grade. Okay, won the lottery meaning...
You won a lottery to get a scholarship to go to pre-K relative to the families who lost the lottery and stayed with their parents.
Maybe because the parents have an advantage at raising their own kids. Maybe they're better at disciplining the kids at home.
But you're saying that the more recent- The more recent Tennessee experiment, which is the latest one, RCT, negative effects on academics and behavior through sixth grade, which is the last year of the study. And I'd also say on the teenage pregnancy thing, that's another important outcome that we looked at in our follow-up crime study that was published in the Journal of Private Enterprise.
We found a reduction in crime, but also a 38% reduction in paternity disputes, which could be caused by out-of-wedlock births or teenage pregnancies. And we also had a – there is an RCT. That was with Choice. That was with a voucher program in Milwaukee. That one was not an RCT. We did the best we could with – we even controlled for neighborhood and single-parent households and religiosity.
All the – as many demographics as you could get to control for. But another separate study in New York City was a charter school experiment by Roland Fryer and his co-author, published in the Journal of Political Economy, I believe in 2015.
They found that winning a lottery to go to a charter school in New York City decreased the likelihood of crime for male students, because we're the ones causing all the trouble, by 100%. It was a complete elimination for lottery winners through the study period. I don't remember how long they covered. It might not have lasted forever.
But through the study period, it was like 5% were incarcerated for the control group in the public schools, lottery winners who got into the charter schools, 0%. So all this to say, on the Head Start thing, I don't bring up these analogies to say that we should, I'm not saying that I support Head Start or Pell Grants or food stamps. I'm saying if we're gonna spend the money,
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