Dan Harris

But I am weird.

I mean, you know, I'm the guy who like needs help getting on an elevator and

And, you know, goes on silent meditation retreats.

I'm definitely a weirdo.

And part of why I'm so happy not to be in the news industry is, you know, I have a much more creative output these days.

And there are in our extended friend group, there are writers and artists and writers.

people who do all sorts of things, and that just makes life, and I'm married to a doctor, and so it's very diverse in every possible way, and that just makes life more interesting.

Before we start round two, I'm going to step back from the game and talk about your podcast and where you're at in your professional life, which I think is a good place from the outside, it seems to be.

And tell me if my math is right.

Is this 10 years of doing your podcast?

It is, right?

10% happier?

Yeah.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

I mean, you're a former news person.

You know that we ascribe this meaning to these times, these anniversaries.

But 10 years is a thing.

For better or for worse, it's a place where culturally we set a marker and we kind of look back.

And so...