Dan Harris

As you look back on the last 10 years, how has this show changed?

What are you still trying to figure out in terms of how you learn and teach simultaneously, which is what 10% Happier feels like to me?

I would say the biggest change is that when it started, it was very meditation focused.

And while I'm still a huge believer and proponent in the practice, the show over time has really evolved into every aspect of doing life better.

You know, we really think about it as drawing from modern psychology and ancient wisdom techniques.

to all evidence-based stuff to help you upgrade your life.

I'm just following my own interests here.

I'm interested in how to sleep better, how to exercise without being driven by self-hatred, how to improve your work life, how to improve your home life.

I want to talk about all these things because, as discussed, I'm a bit of a mess myself.

And so I'm just kind of using this.

The way many of the psychology researchers I interview talk about their own work is research is me search.

And that's what's happening on the podcast.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean—

I think that's what's happening in your work.

Yes, 100%.

No, I started this because I have my own questions.

And it's helpful to hear from other people if they're still in the – if they're in the muck of those same questions and how they've managed their way out or conclusions or if they're just still swimming in the existential goo of it all.

I mean, you talk about how the podcast has evolved to be, you know, let's just look at all of our life and different facets of it and how we can improve.

But I do feel like this optimization culture can sometimes feel oppressive.