Dan Harris

Awesome to talk to her.

Don't forget, if you want to meditate with me, I've got a new-ish meditation app.

You can get it over at danharris.com.

There's a free 14-day trial if you want to try it before you buy.

Finally, thank you very much.

to everybody who worked so hard to make this show.

Our producers are Tara Anderson and Eleanor Vasili.

Our recording and engineering is handled by the great folks over at Pod People.

Lauren Smith is our managing producer.

Marissa Schneiderman is our senior producer.

DJ Kashmir is our executive producer.

And Nick Thorburn of the band Islands wrote our theme.

This is the 10% Happier Podcast.

I'm Dan Harris.

Hello, my fellow suffering beings.

How we doing today?

So much human suffering is caused by the fact that we are stuck in our heads, captured by our thoughts, suckered by our habitual rumination and ancient storylines.

So today we're going to talk about the science of getting out of your head, of escaping the brain's default mode network, which my guests today refer to as the house of habit.

We of course need our default mode network, our capacity to behave habitually.

We need it in order to survive and in order to brush our teeth and tie our shoes without undue cognitive demands.