Dan Shepard

So I have no chance at changing them, but I have a chance to better our side.

Yeah.

But I would argue, though, that it has evolved to a degree where

my liberal leanings, which would have been very left 10 years ago or 12 years ago, have actually got shoved into the center.

Like, I don't think I've wavered as much as the polls have gotten so dramatic.

Yeah, and I guess I left out probably my primary concern or passion about politics is just in general,

the average person thinks way too much about it.

Like you should, this is your beat.

You are dedicated to politics.

You have a poli sci degree, you're a journalist.

You're never gonna take your foot off the gas and you shouldn't.

But the fact that it has infiltrated every aspect of life where protein is now conservative,

plant-based is a little bit like diet is politicized, where you buy a car is politicized, where you shop.

That to me is a big, big problem.

I don't think the average American needs to be spending that much of their free thought

concerned with ultimately something they'll do every four years, or maybe if they're very civilly minded, they will do it every two years.

And yet they're occupying so much of their time and thought about it.

That, I think, is problematic in general.

I think everyone's way too into politics.

I would go further than that.