Dan Shipper

And I think that they, to their credit,

even though it took a while, they realized this over the last like two or three months and like totally pivoted Codex and were leaning into it super hard.

And I think one really good piece of evidence for that is the Super Bowl commercial they ran was for Codex.

It was not for Chachapiti.

Yeah, right.

And you hear all these rumors about the internal kind of, they're reorganizing, they cut Sora, whatever.

I think that they're realizing this and they're like going full bore into it.

I mean, so far, I really like Codex.

I think they're doing a great job.

I agree.

I know that they're going... I mean, just not from any internal knowledge, but I do know just from looking at their tweets that they're really...

I think they're really looking at re-architecting the Codex app, but hopefully in a way that's not like, we're making a chat GPT, but we've realized how powerful this can be and we're pushing it as far as we can.

And I think they're going to do a good job.

What's really funny is if you talk to anyone on the Every team and you ask them what my favorite word is or phrase, they'll say agent native because I cannot stop saying it.

Well, you coined the term as far as I know.

I think so.

I think you did.

Yeah.

And it's just like a thing that I realized in December.

And then we came back from Christmas and New Year's and I was like, agent native, agent native, agent native.