Danielle Chammas
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635 appearances
2 recordings
1 series
first heard Dec 2016
last heard Nov 2024
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I said, You know, I don't usually start
my appointments in laughter and it seems like humor's been really important for you and he.
kind of described that it has been important.
And I said, What led you here?
Like how do we end up here?
And he looked at me and he said, Doctor D.
This story isn't gonna end in a rainbow.
This story isn't gonna end well.
My only choice is to make the rainbow right now.
Um and then I knew and then I knew that he is using this humor to deal with the truth of his illness, not to avoid it.
He gets where this is going.
And so I let myself laugh with him and my goodness did we laugh together.
And I think that's why by the end of the appointment, we were able to go to equally deep places that were pretty dark and pretty heavy together.
A miracle.
Yeah.
That's right.
It's not in the capacities of what we can do medically.
Yeah.
Oh, I was just gonna say the other piece 'cause we talked about them holding
If we conceptualize everything as coping, it helps us hold empathy.
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