Danielle Ecuyer
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864 appearances
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first heard Oct 2021
last heard Nov 2022
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Right.
So we don't get a black or a white.
And that's what I think that people sometimes forget when they're investing is that we want to make it as defined and prescriptive as possible.
But sometimes common sense has to kick in a little bit.
So I also thought your point was really interesting about the directors aligning with management.
I think that also potentially causes real problems when you get directors that don't question things and they just basically toe the line.
And there are examples in the market of AMP and also Bing, not Bing Lee, Dick Smith that went under.
Okay, so I think that these are some of the challenges that are being addressed more with that whole concept of governance and governance of companies and creating greater inclusion of different groups.
of people, different ethnicities.
And I am a great believer that the best way, and I can't remember, I could have gone completely off course here, Kate, so I apologise if I have, but the best way to get a feel of the management, of the CEOs, is to see them, see them at an AGM or listen to the conference calls and literally interpret the way that they respond to shareholders' questions,
Are they defensive?
Are they embracing of the questions?
And really view these people, I suppose, in the wild as opposed to being behind all the just schmick interviews that sometimes go on.
Yeah, and I think having been an institutional research analyst, it is one of the most important things is to actually, like the annual report is good up to a point, but it's a box ticking exercise.
And that's what people have to understand.
The PR departments, the marketing departments, you know, present them in beautiful glossy formats.
And yes, the numbers are absolutely great.
But
You really, really get a much better feel when obviously not everybody can go and interview the CFO or the CEO or whatever, like I used to do or the person that I used to interact with some of the large companies in Australia.
But my best insights came in those interactions.
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