Darby Saxbe

Uh-huh.

Like if you survey women, they like half of them will say like dad bods are better than a six pack.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

So it's not necessarily like a Homer Simpson bod, right?

It's like a sort of larger, softer body.

Yeah.

Yeah, and I think that's one reason that relationship satisfaction drops in new parents, right?

We know it's this big risk factor for couple satisfaction.

How dads navigate that depends, I think, on maybe what their expectations are and sort of their own just ability to get in there and, you know, help and get to know the baby too.

But I think it can become really challenging for some men who then almost feel competitive with the baby.

Yeah.

Like my partner suddenly isn't looking at me like I'm number one.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I mean, you can do couples therapy in advance of a birth.

And there's some research that suggests that that's helpful.

Because it's just like couples need to work on their communication skills.

They need to figure out like suddenly you're going to have more responsibilities on your plate.

Like how do you divide up household labor?