Dario Amodei
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard 12 Jun
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Addressing the risks of AI will require a mix of voluntary actions taken by companies and private third-party actors and actions taken by governments that bind everyone.
The voluntary actions, both taking them and encouraging other companies to follow suit, are a no-brainer for me.
I firmly believe that government actions will also be required to some extent, but these interventions are different in character because they can potentially destroy economic value or coerce unwilling actors who are skeptical of these risks, and there is some chance they are right.
It's also common for regulations to backfire or worsen the problem they are intended to solve, and this is even more true for rapidly changing technologies.
It's thus very important for regulations to be judicious.
They should seek to avoid collateral damage, be as simple as possible, and impose the least burden necessary to get the job done.
It is easy to say no action is too extreme when the fate of humanity is at stake, but in practice this attitude simply leads to backlash.
To be clear, I think there's a decent chance we eventually reach a point where much more significant action is warranted, but that will depend on stronger evidence of imminent, concrete danger than we have today, as well as enough specificity about the danger to formulate rules that have a chance of addressing it.
The most constructive thing we can do today is advocate for limited rules while we learn whether or not there is evidence to support stronger ones.
With all that said, I think the best starting place for talking about AI's risks is the same place I started from in talking about its benefits.
By being precise about what level of AI we are talking about.
The level of AI that raises civilizational concerns for me is the powerful AI that I described in Machines of Loving Grace.
I'll simply repeat here the definition that I gave in that document.
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By powerful AI, I have in mind an AI model, likely similar to today's LLMs of inform, though it might be based on a different architecture, might involve several interacting models, and might be trained differently, with the following properties.
There's a list of bullet points here.
In terms of pure intelligence, it is smarter than a Nobel Prize winner across most relevant fields.
Biology, programming, math, engineering, writing, etc.
This means it can prove unsolved mathematical theorems, write extremely good novels, write difficult code bases from scratch, etc.
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