Dave Evans

Go look at the phone.

It'll tell you how much time you spent just doom-scrolling through stuff.

And I always ask people, tell me the last video you watched.

They go, I don't know.

Tell me the last really, I don't know.

Tell me the last text you read or the last thing you read on X. I don't know.

I said, so if you're doing it and you can't even remember what it was, would you like to reallocate that time to something more interesting?

I'm only talking about 20 minutes here.

Can you give me 20 minutes that you would have spent and just

Be present with yourself and see what comes up.

You know, standing in front of a big blank canvas and I'm going, oh, the world really needs an older white guy painter because we need more painters in the world.

And I'm going to paint something and no one's going to care.

So I go through all that stuff in my head.

And then if I quiet down for a little while and I, you know, just stare at this thing, I get an idea.

Then I get another idea and I get another idea.

And pretty soon,

The painting is painting itself and everything is wonderful.

But boy, everybody's got that moment where they're like, oh, this isn't going to work or this is stupid or this is useless.

I have that all the time.

Yeah.