Dave Evans

Yeah, I tried like 15 mistakes and it's totally- The angry co-pilot feature.

And it's not even, by the way, it's not even when you did the wrong thing, you did the wrong thing.

For it to have been wrong, you had to have had access to information that would have told you it would have been right up front.

You didn't make a mistake.

You made a move.

You learned something that said, oh, continuing on the same collinear pathway would be suboptimal.

I'm going to actually make an adjustment now.

That's not a mistake.

It's just a move.

What do people mean when they're talking about meaning, do you think?

That's a big one.

Well, the reason we wrote this book, I'm going to get fairly direct, is that what overwhelmingly people mean when they talk to us about the meaning they're not getting enough of is they're talking about one of two things.

Primarily, they're talking about having an impact.

I'm making a difference.

Am I changing the world?

Do I matter?

Is it working?

Did I make the impact that would make my life worthwhile?

I'd say 90% of the people we've been talking to recently that motivated us to write this book, the one and only valid form of meaning-making they've named is impact.

And then right behind that would be fulfillment.