David A. Graham

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207 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2025 last heard Apr 2025

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I asked them this question, why does he talk to you?

And part of it is I think he likes the idea of talking to a magazine he doesn't think is friendly.

And then he wants to sort of show his dominance through doing that.

I also think he has such a – they told me he has such a sense of winning.

And so he wants to put somebody in front of him, whether it's Jeffrey Goldberg or whomever, and he wants to kind of win them over.

So he turns the charm on.

And they said, you know, with most people, you're not going to shout at somebody and call them a lot of names.

And then turn around the next day and invite them over.

But that's just how Trump operates.

He's playing different audiences and he doesn't have that same kind of normal approach to people that most folks do.

Yeah.

He's talking about how it was a success.

And Jeffrey Goldberg said, well, you know, do you mean it was a success in that we showed a vulnerability in the way your administration operates?

It showed something you can improve upon.

And Trump was like, no, you dominated the news cycle for like three days.

You dominated the news cycle.

So you get a sense of exactly what he values.

He respects somebody who can take over the attention and challenge him for attention in that way.

I think you're right.

I think they're trying to change the narrative.

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