David French

Vance going there?

Because Viktor Orban has achieved almost spiritual status within the illiberal part of MAGA, that he is the model.

He is seen as a model for the rescue of Western civilization, as weird as that sounds.

Tim, you know, you...

You might remember growing up that it was very frustrating growing up as a Republican to constantly hear like socialist, more socialist leaning Democrats talk about Norway or Denmark as the model of social democracy.

And you're like, guys, I love Norway.

I love Denmark.

But these are tiny Nordic countries that are very hard to translate into the United States of America.

Hungary is even harder to translate into the United States of America.

And yet for years now, I mean, I could go back to years of writing.

Viktor Orban has been the model.

He has been the vision for the new European and American future.

But if he loses, if he's out and

Then he's no longer the model.

He's no longer the first of a wave.

He's a blip.

He's an aberration.

And what's interesting is you're seeing even a lot of the hard right European parties that had previously wrapped their arms around Trump.

They're now turning their backs on him.

The level at which he's alienating people is unbelievable.