David French

I would say the fight is very, very real.

In my experience in Williamson County, there's been actually some real success in the establishment kind of beating backs the more extremists.

I'm so close to this district that my sister-in-law managed the campaign of an establishment Republican against a radical MAGA challenger, and she managed the campaign of the Franklin, Tennessee mayor.

And then my

brother-in-law's on the Williamson County School Board and was targeted as even though he's a staunch Republican, targeted by the more crazy people viciously to the point where he had to get security.

And what was the reason why they targeted him, Tim?

He worked for Pfizer.

And so the problem you have is that in some areas, the fight is over and MAGA won.

I don't think there's any areas where the fight is over and like the establishment one.

And Tim, you have more experience like –

you know, in your previous life and dealing with sort of the grassroots party folks, I was always much more involved in the legal side, the conservative legal movement.

But when I would go to like a grassroots Republican gathering, and I don't know if this is your experience, it was sort of like this.

You would have a room full of people who were like bankers, lawyers, insurance agents, you know,

people were stay-at-home moms like just a collection of normie folks from the neighborhood and then you have a couple of people over in the corner who were like i formed the anti-sharia law non-profit or i have the they've got a pamphlet for you they've got the pamphlet they've got a card they're gonna they're gonna try to jump in and dominate the conversation but they were on the edges of the room you fast forward to now and the whole thing is flipped

The bulk of the room are the people with the crazy ideas, the people who are the fanatical, more extremist, conspiracy minded individuals.

And a lot of the normies are the ones at the edges that are sort of trying to cling on.

And this dynamic has an effect over time, especially when you no longer have the unifying figure.

of Trump to rally behind in an election, and especially if the Democrats actually try hard to pull in moderate and centrist voters.

That 13-point swing, Tim, just to show you how much opportunity is out there for Democrats, that 13-point swing in Tennessee 7 was the lowest swing yet.

the lowest.