David Gelles
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first heard Jan 2026
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that during the first Trump administration were willing to come out and take very explicit stands against this administration, very explicit stands on social issues, they are simply keeping their heads down right now.
And so what you've seen just in the last couple days with some Minnesota business leaders coming out and saying, we need to de-escalate tensions, I mean, that's a first step.
But it is shocking to see, frankly, the silence of,
from so many other business leaders when just a few years ago, speaking out on an issue like this would have been not only expected by employees, by customers, but something that they would have been encouraging one another to do.
They're just about all gone.
I don't know how else to say it.
My colleagues and I at The New York Times spent most of last year covering this extraordinary unwinding of federal policy that was designed to gradually, over time, shift the United States economy away from a fossil fuel economy and toward one that is powered by clean energy.
White House has moved with extraordinary speed to undo so many of the incentives and regulations that were making that transition happen.
And if I may, I'll just rattle off a few.
I mean, when it comes to wind energy, you've seen in the headlines President Trump and the administration canceling, shuttering,
these big wind farms that are essentially constructed off the East Coast and saying that even though that power is ready to plug into the grid, they're not allowed to.
More broadly, for land-based wind farms, you've seen a real ratcheting down of approvals.
And in some case, I covered last year,
the cancellation of a loan that was meant to facilitate the construction of a large transmission line.
And this is boring, but the country really needs more transmission lines.
They canceled it because it was going to carry electrons that would have been powered in part by wind energy.
And so there is this congenital aversion to all things wind from President Trump and his administration that is just decimating the industry here in the United States.
Well, no, some of these are being litigated in the courts.
And in some cases, the Trump administration has used sort of extraordinary measures, alleging that there are things like national security issues at play that give them the power to intervene in the private markets in a way that previously most executives would just have not expected to
the administration, any administration, to do so.
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