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David McCloskey

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

It reminds me a little bit of...

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

the recent admission by the Iranians, and this was a few years ago, that they had stood up a unit, a counterintelligence function, to root out Mossad operatives inside their own intelligence services.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And then it came out that the guy who was running it was himself an agent of the Mossad and had brought other agents of the Mossad in to work with him.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

So it's this fox in the henhouse thing that's so...

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

I mean, the whole thing is, the whole organization's turned inside out when that happens.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And I guess by the late 80s, the IRA is shifting to this strategy called the long war.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

So more emphasis on political activity.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

This is a fast-paced, edge-of-your-seat story where you never quite know who to trust or what happens next.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Welcome back.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

We are going to dive into some of the individual stories about the people inside the IRA or adjacent to the IRA who sort of found themselves wrapped up in this dirty war.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And I guess one very valuable agent of influence, Gordon, was named Willie Carlin.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

So that's kind of- Not your typical MI5 guy, I suppose, in that sense.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

This is where the story gets perhaps even more wild and actually winds up

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

crossing streams with another story we've done because believe it or not, Gordon, you found a way to get Oleg Gordievsky into a story about steak knife and the IRA.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And we did a six-part series on Gordievsky last year, which is fascinating in its own right.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

But Gordievsky is the KGB resident in London in the early 1980s.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

He is spying for the Brits.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

He's spying for MI6.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And Gordievsky has revealed to MI6 that an MI5 officer has offered himself up to the KGB in London.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Now, that officer is a man called Michael Bettany, who's caught after a mole hunt.