David McCloskey

Rotenberg, I think.

That's the password.

And these women were trained in languages and to elicit information and conversation from people to understand military, sensitive military information if they overheard it.

Also-

trained in techniques to steer conversations towards sensitive topics without arousing suspicion.

So how do you elicit information from somebody?

So that's very different from the Epstein story.

It is.

But in this case, because you essentially have these women trained as intelligence collectors to go after diplomats and military officials who happen into this brothel.

It also recalled to me, Gordon, just this nexus of a brothel and intelligence services, the series we did on MKUltra, where the agency had bankrolled essentially a brothel first in New York and then out in San Francisco for the purposes of observing, not for compromise.

but for the purposes of observing the effects of LSD.

But I guess, Gordon, I mean, this brings us to Epstein.

What are the similarities between Salon Kitty and the facts of Jeffrey Epstein's life and times?

Well, most of the time, the claims or the theory that Epstein is running this blackmail operation, it ladders into the

Israel's foreign intelligence service, the Mossad.

That is frequently the intelligence service that's listed as working or handling Epstein in this case.

We should say, I mean, the former Israeli prime minister, Naftali Bennett, has flatly denied claims of Israeli involvement in Epstein's crimes.

And he said the accusation that Epstein somehow worked for Israel or the Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally false.

He wrote on Epstein's conduct, both the criminal and the merely despicable had nothing whatsoever to do with the Mossad or the state of Israel.

And I have to say, I really don't think an intel agency would set up an operation against