David Plouffe

But whether it be tariffs, whether it be Greenland, you know, whether it be how they're handling AI, healthcare, all of these economic issues, you need to lay at the foot of anybody on the ballot in 2026.

There should be no daylight between Trump and them.

And I think you raise an interesting point, which is, I'm not sure we've ever seen that inverse, but it's happening right now.

So to me, that looks like an opportunity, which is if you align those House and Senate Republicans with

with Trump in terms of voters views on the economy, Democrats chances to win not just the House, but maybe even that outside chance of the Senate get a lot better.

Well, listen, it's a great question.

I mean, when you when you work in the White House, you get to see psychological profiles that are developed for world leaders.

Trump's psychological profile is like literally a sentence long, which is just flatter the guy and you'll get what you want.

So on the one hand, whether you're a business leader, we've seen this a lot in Silicon Valley, you're a world leader.

You know, you bend the knee, you say some things nice publicly.

And, you know, he is like a dog.

He rolls over.

His belly's been rubbed.

He's happy.

I think this is probably a situation where that's not going to work.

I probably tend to agree more with the Newsom view on this, which is I think these world leaders need to talk about the economic pain this will cause to Americans.

I think they need to talk about the fact that if there is kinetic action, it's not going to be free throws.

There's going to be think about that.

There's going to be war.

between soldiers from the UK and from Denmark and from France and Germany with the US.