David Plouffe

I'm not going to share any details.

Suffice it to say the Putin one is dramatic reading, yes.

For me, it was really when I was there, it was we were coming out of the financial crisis.

So it was any kind of documentation that we're actually coming out of it that the economy is beginning to heal.

Those are the things you like to read because for a long time we got the opposite.

But, you know, when you work in the White House and you have clearance, obviously it's a window into the world and it can be both inspiring but also quite frightening in terms of what's going on on a day-to-day basis.

You know, it's gut wrenching, obviously.

You know, I think it's not really ideology that unifies some of those who have bent the knee to Trump, whether they be in the business community, in the political community.

I think there's a lot of them.

I think Musk is this way.

I think Sachs and there's a lot of tech leaders.

I think there's plenty of Republican leaders.

Vance falls into this Trump at the top.

They simply don't want any guardrails.

They don't want to be criticized.

They don't want protest.

They want to be treated as heroes.

They don't want anybody to point out whether you're a journalist or a political opposition.

And so this now goes to citizens.

They don't want citizens to lift their voice to protesting what's happening in the country.