David Royce

You really got to be in the top 1% and 1% to make it in that industry.

And then a lot of people do it and they don't have any experience before they try to go do it on a much bigger level.

It's like this idea that if you challenge LeBron James to basketball, but you never played basketball, you've just watched it your whole life.

I love basketball.

It's great.

I should go do this.

I'm passionate about it.

You go and you get into it.

But you're clearly going to lose playing LeBron.

Like nobody would make that bet and invest their life savings into that business except for LeBron.

Right, right.

I think it was Scott Galloway.

I think he says the only people who tell you to follow your passions are those who already are rich, right?

Because then it's kind of like me.

Now I'm like, oh, maybe I want to do something more creative or more philanthropic or do something else.

But I've kind of like

earned that at this point, right?

I went and worked at a kind of a boring business and I tried to like put my spin on it and make it fun.

You know what I'll tell you too, blue collar businesses, a lot of people are like me where they initially look at them and they're like, no, I don't want to go do that.

But the crazy thing is the margins.