Dean Burgess

So basically we'd driven for like 14 days just to get to this FUP station

Back it up, boys.

Say his name, Scotty Palmer.

Scotty Palmer, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I've seen it sort of, yeah.

It's very compartmentalised because even within 2 Commando, because we're a bigger unit than Perth, it was like there was guys that...

you would see and know, but you had no interaction with them because you're in a different company.

Not only that, you're in a different team and you're doing different roles.

So, you know, like when we talked about Scotty, how I ended up going on that trip for him, we'd never really interacted much before outside of, say, rugby or rugby league because I know Darwin Boy used to play Azru and stuff like that.

And he's actually good friends with my best mate, Ben Jones, who he was Azru captain.

Like he's way back with the Australian Army Rugby Union.

And that's how they know each other.

And it's just sort of a weird triangle of the military complex about how you end up knowing someone through somebody else.

element of respect now and because we're so past the afghanistan era there's no more egos attached to it i agree man and you know what you mightn't see yourself as a leader but you you definitely are because like i've i've taken your lead and nowhere near the same levels but

Yeah, you're a lot deeper into this than I am.

With my content, I sort of leave it open-ended for your own opinion.

I just speak to what I know.

I try not to tell another man's stories unless I've been given the okay for it.

However, mine's a bit more like it's up to you to decide whether you like what I do or not, but I'm putting it out there.

And the big thing for me was...