Dean Burgess

In saying that, though, like...

Under the ADF contract, the Commonwealth law situation, it's like, well, we know what we're signing up for.

That should give us the right and the virtue to pursue our belief systems and what we're there for.

It doesn't help if you do get sent home in a bag, but yeah, it's more palatable, I agree.

I agree.

Yeah, I totally agree.

And that's one of the things that's come out of 2 Commando SAS, especially after all these allegations that have happened to the guys, is they've largely gutted the Special Operations Command and any kind of ability to retrain these guys.

And SF operators, man, the government's spend on those boys, us boys, is huge.

You know, I remember like... Tens of millions.

Yeah, tens of millions.

You know, there was an old rumor when I was going through that...

just to get you to the gate costs you $6 million.

That covers your, obviously, your selection and then your Rio cycle, reinforcement cycle.

Yeah, travel.

Like ammunition.

Yeah.

Everything.

Well, I came through.

When I came through, that was when they were making it so everyone that was marching into the unit had to be qualified with ACQB, which is Advanced Close Quarter Battle.

And...