Dean W. Ball
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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And I think the company should be incented to do that.
And I would agree with Daniel in the sense that I don't think that they're obviously incented to do that.
I think they're incentive even if they have the best of intentions and even if you think Sam Altman is the greatest guy ever.
The incentive that you can imagine them having is to treat it as a muddle-through problem, is to have my intuition about it.
Because that's how they handle everything else.
That's like how AI development, but it's like rigorously empirical and we're gonna engineer our way through this problem and this problem and this problem.
We're gonna do a thousand things and deep learning works and then we'll figure everything out from there, right?
Like that's basically the the mentality in some important ways.
And so you can see how they would obviously have an incentive to treat it as a muddle through problem.
And I'm just not a hundred percent sure that it is.
And I think that the companies need to be investigating that question.
And they're the only people in the world who can really investigate this question with any kind of intellectual rigor.
Yeah, like I I don't think entirely, but I would I guess I'd push back on a couple of things.
I would push back, first of all, on
the idea that Sam Altman's sort of apparent pivot on the China issues
I think the reality, like there's a fundamental tension, right?
If you think that AI should be regulated, what that means, in an inherent sense, what that means is that you think that open AI as an institution and the other frontier labs and the government as an institution and the people in the government that would be doing the regular the people in Congress, the people in national security apparatus, the people of the Department of Commerce who are increasingly part of the national security apparatus, that you want those people to have more
more relationships with one another, right?
You want them to go to the same cocktail parties and you want them to be in signal groups together, right?
Like that's a this is an inherent that would be an epiphenomenon of there being more regulation.
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