Dean W. Ball

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"The Cognitive Revolution" · AGI Lab Transparency Requirements & Whistleblower Protections, with Dean W. Ball & Daniel Kokotajlo · 12 Nov 2024 podcast

This is sometimes called regulatory capture, but it's also just a social phenomenon and it's an inherent and necessary one.

And if you want that to be the case, like there is no world in which open AI and the United States government have deeper relations where open AI is regulated by the United States government and Sam Altman's, Yeah, I think we can be friends with the Chinese.

That's just never gonna happen.

Because that's not the political dynamic.

That has always been part of my concern, why I have always said that regulation has a serious trade off in that you are biasing that you are going to be biasing these companies to be part of American power projection.

And they always will be part of American Power Protection.

But if they see themselves explicitly in that way, and our government sees themselves explicitly in that way, and to the extent they do, you create all kinds of weird problems that can exist.

This is what I've uh always tried to say about the dangers of getting into bed with government.

So yeah, I basically think there's no world in which there's responsible AI regulation and also open AI is not essentially to towing the State Department's line with regard to China.

Whatever you think about that line, right?

I'm inclined to agree that AI is a very serious national security asset and potential risk.

And that we do need to be thinking about how to make sure that America wins.

Right.

Like I basically do believe that.

But also I'm from Washington DC and I work at a think tech.

Like the same dynamics apply to me.

So you know, you should always keep that in mind too.

I'm part of American power projection, is what I'm saying, right?

Like I'm part of the system too.

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