Devlin

And I think sometimes that sort of makes our loose forwards look a little bit better than they are in terms of being able to turn breakdown rather than the actual forwards getting there.

um yeah look i just want to comment on that you know we saw quinn tupai play at center a lot of people wanted quinn tupai to play at center i thought he was he didn't have as much influence in that game playing at center for the chiefs compared to what we've seen when he plays at 12 for the chiefs and i'm not sure that's the experiment i want to see and i saw that yes he was good but he wasn't as influential when he plays at 12 so um

Yeah, the style of rugby we want to play, oh, look, I don't think it's changed too much, has it?

Win the battle up front, earn the right to go wide, that simple.

But, yeah, we've got to be big, we've got to be bruising, and we've also got to be athletic.

I think that's it.

We want the size of South Africa, but we want all of them to basically have the skill sets of a Michael Jones, and that's what we should be pushing to.

But I'm not sure that...

You know, that's easier said than done.

I think Anton Cegna's done enough.

You want to keep players in this country.

You say to them, stay here.

You perform every week.

Now, he's performing not necessarily in the best of the Blues forward pack.

He's not a thing.

You put him in around, you know, we often use this, oh, you know, put him in a forward pack that goes backwards.

He's not that good.

And we use that excuse for the first fives.

Segner, look, I've always felt he was a little bit of a journeyman, but I saw there's a bit of a Shannon Frizzell this year about him.

I think he's taken a really big step up.