Donna Jackson Nakazawa
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That's right.
And our brain has a survival response to protect us.
As I said, it just didn't develop along the way very good strategies for getting out of it.
That is not something our brains developed with over time.
It's something that we have to teach ourselves and work on ourselves.
I wish it were otherwise.
Humans developed all these great survival responses.
Yeah.
but not very good ways to exit that survival state.
Very well said.
Yeah, so the person who did this research is really the scientific mother of the study of rumination, and her name is Susan Nolan Hoekseman.
She was at Yale.
She died in 2013, and her research just kind of went away.
And when I was diving into this, I found that she, as early as 2013, had found that the degree to which we ruminate more than any other mental act is
is tied to our likelihood of developing depression, anxiety, substance use disorders, eating disorders.
It's just crazy how predictive it is.
And yet, we don't really teach people how.
at all in any way, shape, or form how to manage this very human tendency that we have.
At the same time, I found out that more recently in my research, over the past three to four years, neuroscientists have proven Susan Nolan Hoeksema absolutely right.
They've been going and looking in kids' brains, adults' brains,
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