Donncha O'Callaghan

He's not being bogged down.

He's having a brilliant life experience.

No, not at all.

I think Ulster needs strengthening.

I think the whole squad needs strengthening.

I agree the best way to do it is from the pathway, as they call it nowadays, the academy, get them through.

But I think they could still do with a few good seasoned pros from outside, guys that can teach young fellows coming in.

So I always like the ones like John Langford, Jim Williams, those kind of guys that leave...

legacy behind them.

And I think Ulster, they have the kernel of a really strong, they have a backbone, but they need competition in a bigger squad.

Yeah, I haven't seen much of the fallout.

I'll be honest, I haven't read or listened to a whole lot.

I watched the match, but I don't mean to kind of kick, but it looked like they were further away at this final than they'd been over the past.

I think this one will sting.

I think you'd love to be going out against the Lions to put it right, but some of it just... I feel for the players.

I know everyone looks to kind of point the fingers a little bit, but

I was surprised with some of it, Tommy.

I really was.

When you don't start time for a long man, you know what I mean?

When you don't start Osborne, I know everyone will go on about the decisions with Geordie Barrett that time.