Donncha O'Callaghan

It was two steps forward, three steps back at stages.

And I used to listen to these motivational podcasts or motivational like YouTube videos.

show them who you are it's like it's the Mulligan bros or whatever else have these and I'd be listening and I'd be there fucking come on I'm gonna do it and I remember like I was really down the dumps and I was like this am I ever gonna get back Glenn and I remember listening to this

YouTube video and it was like about resolve and perseverance and don't giving up so I was like right okay and I was going off to go get myself a coffee just to try and get away from the train venue for a bit so I listened to it I was pumped I got out of the car I went over and I just went to this coffee shop and I stood there in the queue and then this fella goes

Tommy Moe, have you retired then?

Have you?

And I was like, ah, for fuck's sake.

the highs and lows of what you had to do and that's exactly right that like I'm still one of the boys here I'm still one of the team like don't forget that like I will be back and I will be playing and I know you're I know you're trying to be sound by asking how it's going but I actually remember that the most with Stephen Ferris Ferris like was at the peak of his powers and he got lifted in a line out and got dropped and literally at this stage Dickey wanted him to play for Ireland and

He'd been out injured, right?

And it was the start of the November internationals.

And Deccy was Argentina, like, first international up and it was next week.

So Deccy kind of said to Stephen, right, it was the week before, he said, listen,

you're going to it's Irish training camp this week we're going to let you we're going to rest you this weekend because you haven't played in so long we want to have you right for next week and Stevie was like oh Decky you know I just want to get a bit of game time can I just get even 20 minutes this weekend just so I can get a feel for it

And Deccy was kind of, oh, I don't know, Stephen, I'd prefer, you know, I think a good week's training down here in Dublin and a good week's training leading into Argentina would be better for you.

But Steve, he was just like, fucking man, I need to play.

I need to get just that under my belt.

So he said, OK, right.

Contacted Ulster, said he's available to play, but only for a half.

Anyway, Stevie comes on and maybe he started and they literally threw him up in a line out and he landed, landed on someone's ankle and then twist his ankle.

And that was pretty much him.