Donncha O'Callaghan

And that was, I think he played one or two matches after like, but I'll never forget.

You could see he knew I need to just get out here, man.

Oh, it was unbelievable.

I remember sitting beside him on the bike one day, just one morning, and he was on the bike just kind of spinning out his ankle.

And I just jumped on it beside him.

And again, a bit like you said, you're just trying to be sound and just kind of ask, you know, how are you getting on?

I mean, he just pretty much broke down.

He just like, just, it's not getting better.

It would take a lot.

One time we were training with Ulster and he was only like a young fella coming through and it was unopposed.

It was 15 v 15, no tackles, just like hands on type thing.

And a ball came down off the line out to the out half and the out half kind of gave it back inside to me into that gap.

Right.

But Stevie'd obviously missed the jumps, was trying to catch up.

He fucking cleaned me out of it.

in a walkthrough like in a walkthrough and Mark McCall who was coach at the time obviously at Saracens now he just goes get the fuck off like just the horse the horse yeah so Stevie literally had to leave and walk off the pitch and go into the dressing room

But he'd be a great man to tell us the stories about injuries and everything else.

But yeah, no, it's a tough time.

But it is fascinating.

You're a lucky man that you didn't have to deal with too many injuries.