Dr. Alia Crum

whatever it is, just for the sake of eating it.

I don't hear that.

No.

And what you do is you're just like, I can.

If I really want to eat this dessert, that's okay, right?

Can I eat it in a mindset of indulgence, a mindset of this is enough, this is good, this is pleasurable, this is what I want right now.

So I always look at the dessert menu and I give myself permission to say, do I really want anything on this menu?

Okay, great.

So I guess I would turn it on you, Mal, and I would say like, when you look at that lettuce, like what's the first thing that comes to mind?

Well, that's interesting.

If you decided you were going to feed your kid

maybe when they were littler, this iceberg lettuce for dinner, what would they think?

It is?

Picky eaters are a mindset?

Well, the belief that healthy foods are the disgusting and depriving option is a mindset.

And we have it actually for good reason.

Again, they're set by things outside ourselves.

Like,

Food companies spend billions of dollars each year trying to teach us that the delicious option, the indulgent option, is the fast food option.

Yes.