Dr. Anand Parekh
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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I mean, you were involved in the one campaign that was driving the AIDS and poverty relief in Africa. And it was a massive campaign against all odds. And it succeeded. And you were shepherding that through. And that was a huge achievement. We need a PEPFAR One campaign for the food system. We need a Manhattan Project for the food system.
How would you go about, given all your experience and knowledge and your work at the Bipartisan Policy Center, laying that out in a way that was a doable strategy, a winnable way?
Yeah, you don't. And so the key things that have to get changed, and you write about them, for example, in the bipartisan policy work, you know, SNAP, food labels, you know, reforms to Medicare, reimbursement around food as medicine, which you're talking about. How challenging do you think it is to get some of these things done? Because
For example, with SNAP, the leveraging nutrition was a great report that was put up by the Bipartisan Policy Center, which outlined some of the things that need to be done, like limiting access to, for example, sugar-sweetened beverages, which the dietary guidelines say we shouldn't you eat, but the SNAP benefits provide $7 billion a year for soda consumption. And so it's like schizophrenic.
It's like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand of the government's doing. And there are people who are for it. There's people who are against it. For example, the hunger groups oppose any restrictions. And how do you thread that needle? Because I think
It's such an important program, for example, for feeding the hungry and food insecurity, but it also has secondary negative consequences of actually increasing poor health in that community and increasing the need for Medicaid and Medicare to pay for those patients who eat those foods who get sick. So it's really kind of a rabbit hole you don't want to go down.
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I mean, I think I'm always curious about, you know, policy ideas becoming then policy and then becoming implemented. And it seems like there's a lot of steps there that things can go wrong. How do you navigate that?
It reminds me of what Winston Churchill said, which was democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others. And I think, you know, you're kind of a unicorn because you thread the needle between a heart surgeon, which is the sort of epitome of acute care, rescue medicine and public health, which has been a large focus of your work.
And particularly with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Like you said, you were there operating on the downstream consequences of all this stuff. And you're like, wait a minute, maybe we better figure out a way to not get these people on my operating table.
And a lot of the work you're doing now in Nashville with Nashville Health and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation is focused on population health and how the social determinants, which are
food and your housing and your economic opportunities, all the things that we don't think are that important, which may make up to 80% of the difference in your health and your, you know, actual health quality of life and productivity. You know, what do you see is required for the government to sort of really shift to say, wait a minute, we're focusing on the wrong end of the stick here.
Yes, we need to, you know, maintain our best healthcare system in the world and the high quality of acute care medicine. But if we're really going to solve the health disparities, the economic impact of chronic disease, the fact that six out of 10 Americans suffer from a chronic disease, four out of 10 have two, and in a few years, 83 million will have three or more chronic diseases.
And, you know, this will be metabolic health, you know, only being 12% of the population, 88% are not healthy. How do we start to shift our focus and share some of the work you're doing there because it's so important and it's such a different framework for how we solve these problems than just more access to care and better financing and better efficiencies.
It's flipping the whole problem on its head.
It's true. And the thing that you talked about in terms of medically tailored meals is such a great example of an out-of-the-box intervention that works better than anything else. And you see that with the homeless population, providing them housing, literally paying for their apartments, reduces healthcare costs dramatically and is actually an economic benefit.
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