Dr. Angela Duckworth

If you start to notice how they speak of themselves, they always talk about themselves as lifelong learners, right?

They say, you know, like Satya Nadella at Microsoft, I'm not a know-it-all, I'm a learn-it-all.

I mean, it's there.

It's baked into the language and it's in the way they approach life.

And it's accessible.

It's really to all of us.

I think the thing that surprised me most...

was that when I began to dig into what it really meant to have passion and perseverance for long-term goals, it wasn't the way I thought it would look.

I thought it would look like intensity, and it turned out to be consistency.

So...

Instead of somebody who has the kind of, you know, outsized personality always and the kind of like, oh my gosh, I'm 11 out of 10.

This is amazing.

And even imagine an athlete, right?

Like you go down to, you know, some aquatic center like Bob Bowman, you know, the coach from Michael Phelps and more recently Leon Marchand, right?

So two of the best swimmers who's

who have ever lived.

And if you ask a coach like Bob, what is special about a Michael Phelps or a Leon Marchand?

Do they give you a 10 out of 10?

Oh my gosh, maybe they give you 11 out of 10 at practice.

I want to watch, right?