Dr. Chantelle Thomas

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RECOVERable: Mental Health and Addiction Experts Answer Your Questions · Ketamine and MDMA: Can Alternative Treatments Improve Mental Health? · 23 Jul 2026 podcast

Now that's not compared to complete alleviation of depression, but it's a certain marker of a drop in depressive scores, which they indicate is a response rate.

Um for those individuals though, how long do they get that relief?

Some people may get relief for a couple of days, some people might get it for a couple of weeks, some people a couple of months.

But to

Answer that issue of durability in a ketamine setting, they give people more ketamine in a shorter window of time.

So four to six treatments within two to three weeks.

Whereas in ketamine assisted psychotherapy, maybe you're thinking a little bit more of the interaction effect, the opportunity that ketamine produces.

And how do you work within that window to extend those effects through different therapeutic mechanisms instead of just leaning on the ketamine?

Um, yes.

So there's uh some people would say so integration is specifically reserved it's comes from the Latin root integrare, which means to renew, to repair, to make whole.

It's the idea that you're taking this experience, which again does live

In a more altered non-ordinary state of consciousness, you're taking this thing that happened to you and you're trying to translate it to regular consciousness.

So you're building almost a bridge to this, I don't even know what happened, what was that?

Nonordinary states of consciousness can happen in so many different ways, right?

You could go to an art exhibition, you could listen to a piece of music, you could, um

Do a static dance.

You could be standing by the Grand Canyon and you're like, I don't even know how to integrate this experience on some level.

It changes you or impacts you, right?

So the idea of integration is taking this felt sense of something extraordinary, maybe awe-inducing, or maybe just profound or deeply emotional.

And how can I weave this into my regular consciousness so that it makes sense and I have some anchoring points to lean into?

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