Dr. Chloe Carmichael

And one of the ingredients of groupthink, as I share in my book, is what's called direct pressure upon dissenters.

So people are not comfortable, as Rob was saying earlier, to speak up.

And my own profession, the mental health field, we're 90% plus liberal identifying.

and since um free speech right now is coded as a right issue this means that speaking up about hey maybe women really can't become men or you know maybe it's you know really actually racist some of our quote cultural sensitivity programs or whatever um people just don't feel comfortable

I did not feel comfortable to speak up.

I sang a little song to get through my program, and that was 15 years ago.

So I wish I were getting better, but I don't see the conditions for that happening yet.

Toxic masculinity.

Yeah, I mean, this is so interesting, and I totally agree.

There's something, it's called the celebration paradox by someone named Michael Anton, where if you're gonna talk about sex differences, it's only okay if you're saying something positive about women, right?

So if you said, oh, there's more female judges now, and the bench has gotten more compassionate, that's fine.

But if you wanna say, oh, there's more female judges now, and maybe it's like getting to be a little histrionic, like, well, that's not okay, right, to say.

And so I do think that there's that celebration paradox as well here with the polyamory thing.

Like if you want to write about polyamory and it's a woman doing it, then it's brave and bold.

But if it's a man doing it, oh, well, this toxically masculine guy just wants to subjugate all these women or whatever.

And I saw something similar.

You guys are reminding me as well of the Me Too stuff, right?

Like where, you know, to your point, Drew, about what I hear behind closed doors.

It drove me nuts with Me Too where this whole like believe all women thing because I sat with women that literally told me that they were going to fabricate a sexual harassment campaign.

claim to get what they want.