Dr. Christof (Christoph) Koch

So it's a more extreme version of that.

In fact, I think for mystical, this wasn't a mystical experience.

For mystical experience,

Most people report they go hand in hand.

In fact, I think they're probably necessary but not sufficient.

You have to lose the sense of self.

You have to get off this planet ego and become selfless.

And then this allows you to experience the doors of perception, right?

Foundational text for the age of Aquarius, 60s and 70s, right?

Aldous Huxley was here in LA when he, you know, a British intellectual, when he took mescaline, he also talks about the, and this loss of self.

So I think it's not untypical for these powerful experiences to lose your sense of self, to realize that, you know, it's fine.

There's still mind there without,

being your mind.

So I had a separate experience two years later at midnight, past midnight on a beach in Brazil.

So that was a more classical, mystical experience.

So there again, loss of Christoph, loss of self.

And I...

I don't want to talk about the details.

It's still too, you know, I still have processing every day.

But I became, whatever remained of me became one with the universe.