Dr. Christof (Christoph) Koch

And again, it's not something guessing.

Is it maybe one or the other?

They just see it blue and black or... Okay, so...

Then people ask, well, is there anything real?

What is the real color?

Often people ask, no, there is no real color.

What there is are photons that are, you know, from the sun that strike the two-dimensional surface of the dress that get absorbed by my photoreceptors that then get processed and they get evaluated in one way in our brain.

So we see it as white and gold and get evaluated differently in a different brain because we all have different priors.

This has to do with whether we are evening persons or morning persons.

But this also applies to things like 9-11 and October 7th.

If I tell you this, 9-11, what do you think about it?

Or October 7th, depending on whether you are Israeli or Palestinian, you have profoundly different views of it, right?

So you look at a fact that is supposedly objective, but depending what priors you bring to it, what your perception bar construct is, in what culture you grew up, you have radical different interpretation.

And this also includes your sense of self.

So I would say what you had...

With this transformative experience, you expanded your perception box, your perception of reality to now include the notion, ha, I get it now that other people, depending on their skin of their colors, will be treated differently from me.

That's invaluable.

Implicit and explicit, yeah.

So you have to think about it.

What does it mean?