Dr. Claire Hart

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, the phones certainly provide a platform to make it easy to be distracted from each other.

You know, that's how they've been designed.

But I think that there's more to it than that in terms of, you know, like we all have these needs that need to be met.

How can we actually go about doing that?

So I think, you know, the phone is a platform, but it's not in itself the problem.

Again, I think it's fine to call people out.

You know, just say, hi, I'm actually here.

Have a conversation with me.

I think, you know, a lot of people do just reach for their phones because it's a habit that they've, you know, they've just got used to doing it.

So, yeah, call them out.